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What wikileaks had to say. that raised some alarms among others in the 2016 campaign run-up. >> yes, you know, the hacking of those e-mails was not some side event. the discovery, the wikileaks, the dumps of those john podesta e-mails became a core part of trump's message in the general election. he talked about it almost every day at the rallies. it was top of mind for candidate trump. he saw these e-mails. and everything that it uncovered, be it the sort of palace intrigue within the clinton campaign to those clinton goldman sachs speech transcripts that created all dines of problems for her...
Foundation. how bad? >> i think it's really significant. this hits to ep arational stuff. i can tell you inside the campaign prior to the debates, they were concerned about the foundation stuff. in fact, there was a lot of conflict between the people who were doing press and communications for the foundation and the campaign itself. the campaign did not feel -- and we saw a lot of this stuff in the wikileaks e-mails about the e-mail controversy, initially. bad communication between the campaign and the foundation this this is really significant and it plays into her negatives, which trump has ...
In ohio to a women's group. >> i get accused of being moderate and center. i plead guilty. i think sometimes it is important when you are in the elected arena you try to figure out how to bring people together to get something done. >> is that part of the problem -- that people don't know who she is, that she doesn't seem authentic. one day she's a moderate. then challenged by bernie sanders and she's suddenly progressive. the goldman sachs speech transcripts show she says one thing in public ambassador another in private. >> on the wikileaks issue it was striking that in the last 24 hours eve...
We finally got speech transcripts. to me, if you take them all in totalit totality, she's a calculating politician, she's everything bernie sanders said she was. had this come out during the primary, could this have cost her the nomination? >> it could have. to your point, it reinforces everything a lot of people thought about secretary clinton. the fact that it's coming out right now is awkward for the campaign. they're having to answer a lot of thorny questions in the days leading up to election day. but in terms of their strategy for dealing with this, they are pivoting. they are not acknow...