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>> i need this, you know. i need this. i'm going to take this. and -- no, no. i'm the old person. i need this. you have to take care of me. >> is that wrong? is wrong? >> he's not wrong. he has it exactly right and you do. once again washington has let down the american people. i think loretta's comments are absurd to say, of course it's not the president who makes the decisions, it's congress. what has president obama been saying for 16 days? he's saying it is his decision. it's his way or the highway. he's been saying he wanted a clean c.r. and she joined him. he didn't want congress to have...

Mike, what are they doing? >> well, they are talking it out in the house after the senate passed this with strong bipartisan support, 81-18. many i have talked to seem worn out from the fight, ready to re-open the government and fight about the issues another day. they know they will do plenty of talk about the debt in the weeks and months ahead. meanwhile, top democrats recognize this is only a short-term fix. >> the proposal that will be before us shortly does just that and no more. re open the government. we pay our bills. and then we can sit down and negotiate. >> republicans continue to s...

Which wasn't dealt with. you say the debt wasn't being paid down. it's getting worse. it uh's growing especially with the long-term entitlement programs and unpaid for promises known as liabilities. that $17 trillion number scratches the surface. that's the official number on paper. when you take those extra promises that we have already made to the american people and have no way of paying for, the number is closer to 90 trillion dollars. according to to several member s of president clinic top's debt commission from the early '90s. there is going to be a conference committee. one of the elem...

Is automatic or entitlement spend ing. as long as he's president is only way to repeal or defund his signature law is with his signature. we are not going to give up. we are always, always going to have it on the table. >> last question. i will throw it at both of you. you can answer at will. >> a lot of conservatives are concerned that republicans are neg t yating too much with themselves and at the end the democrats are united and don't seem willing to give. do you feel they are willing to hold the line, stand on principles? >> i absolutely do. we know what it sounds like back home. we know ...

Is automatic or entitlement spend ing. as long as he's president is only way to repeal or defund his signature law is with his signature. we are not going to give up. we are always, always going to have it on the table. >> last question. i will throw it at both of you. you can answer at will. >> a lot of conservatives are concerned that republicans are neg t yating too much with themselves and at the end the democrats are united and don't seem willing to give. do you feel they are willing to hold the line, stand on principles? >> i absolutely do. we know what it sounds like back home. we know ...