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Continuing resolution with republicans. why are you a no? >> you know, i'm a no primary for spending reasons. i think the debt -- this year the deficit will be close to $800 billion. next year projected to be a trillion dollars. next year congress puts up spending caps, military and non-military has spending caps and we exceeded them like hundreds of times. we started in the 1990s trying to have self-restraint in both sides and frankly now, republicans worse than democrats want to exceed the spending caps. so for me it's not about daca for many democrats, they want the daca fix to be part of s...

Registration lew resolution, which is a no by the senate now. you got mike graham no, there is not enough votes to pass a continuing resolution with republicans. why are you a no? >> you know, i'm a no primary for spending reasons. i think the debt -- this year the deficit will be close to $800 billion. next year projected to be a trillion dollars. next year congress puts up spending caps, military and non-military has spending caps and we exceeded them like hundreds of times. we started in the 1990s trying to have self-restraint in both sides and frankly now, republicans worse than democrats ...

Can't do any long-term planning because there is a big debate about it. they want to raise the spending caps and give the military more money. but after midnight, troops get paid. there isn't a big impact today on the military, but for a couple years now they can't do any long-term planning. >> this is the frequent hobby horse of whoever is in power when they're trying to avoid a government shutdown. it reminds people the military isn't going to get paid, so i think that's pretty by the book. the problem is there's this other stuff that is being negotiated, and it's also not even clear the rep...

Grounds that it included a long-term extension of that controversial surveillance program. but now that fisa as we call it is not in this new bill, will he vote yes? there he is, i can ask them now. kentucky republican rand paul is with us now. senator, how will you vote to extend the continuing resolution to keep the government open? >> i think we spend too much money. that deficit will be close to $800 billion. when i ran for office i promise voters i would not continue to add to the debt. we have a $20 trillion debt. i don't think we should keep spending money this fast. the spending bill w...

Late friday night or not, we are expecting the house to vote on an interim measure to prevent that from happening. it's very dicey in the u.s. senate. the republicans are saying the votes are not there. it's not only the no votes on their side but the number of no votes on the democratic side including this one. kentucky senator rand paul. senator, good to have you. >> thanks, neil. >> neil: so you're a no on this. why? >> government spends too much money. our debt this year or deficit this year will be close to $800 billion. next year is expected to be a trillion. so for decade now, you've he...