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The shutdown was over a spending issue, not 11 times, it was about a spending issue. four times it was contraeight. two times it was contraaid, which was spending areas.

But the democrats are getting some religion on this spending issue. and i think as the government takes a smaller share of gdp, the private sector will produce more economic growth which is my real goal. >> do you think that the differences that we're talking about here are really going to have an impact in how much businesses are spending? >> well, i think over a period of time the answer is yes. i mean, look, a lot of people make the argument, it may not be a perfect argument, but when the businesses look at large deficits, they know at some point they are going to be taxed to pay for it. an...

Constant communication. >> that was on a deficit fight, though. >> in a way it is leading up to the debt ceiling. >> there's no way to attach the deficit to linking this to the c.r. >> this is a spending issue right now, right? so this is the continuing resolution. it's because the senate hasn't passed -- has only passed one appropriations bill of out of the last 48 on time. >> thanks in part to mr. cruz. >> okay. you can blame a single republican. but all previous republican and democratic majority leaders in the senate found a way to work with their minorities and get things done at budget t...

And my question was, why can't the federal government balance our budget like the households do in this country? his answer was, because america is not a family. if we balance too soon we get less revenues. gregg: my question why do they have to be tied together, entilement reform and taxes? dough end to do they. >> they absolutely do. we have a spending problem. it is not an issue of producing more revenue. we're at record amounts of revenue in this nation. we have got to cut the spending and debt in this nation or we will not get the economy going. the balanced budget is a foundation to turn...

And liberal americans are putting all of us in danger by their inflexibility on the spending issue. republican senator tom coal berne indicates the senators could save almost 300 billion bucks a year simply by cutting out waste in duplicate programs. let's get very specific for you doubters out there. very specific. please consider these facts. am i being nice? the national institutes of health recently awarded $1.5 million to a boston hospital. to study why many lesbians are overweight and most gay men are not. the feds calling this a silg can't -- significant public health issue. are you kid...