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Full continuing resolution that would be the full year? >> well, for one thing they have been very successful at driving this idea that our problem with deficits and debts are entirely a spending issue. most of us realize that when you have dramatic reduction revenues because we give tax cuts to millionaires and billionaires, that causes a problem. they've been successful in saying, pay no attention to the fact that we've funded wars in afghanistan and iraq without paying for them. only when we slash enough money are our problems solved. and then the mythology of paul ryan's plan for next clea...

Away. on a scale of one to ten, ten being a shutdown, how likely do you think it is that the government will shut down tonight? >> well, i just have to go in the middle. i do think that four hours is enough time to come to a deal. what i understand is that the dollar figure has been agreed to, but you know one thing that i would ask my republican colleagues. why don't you empower your speaker? why don't you let your speaker go to the white house, make a deal, and understand that whatever deal he comes to, it should be okay? that's what we did in california when i served in that position, and i...

It's hard to see either side allowing the government to shut down and that they really are getting closer. having said that you do hear democrats in a pretty remarkable way staying on message, talking about the fact that this is just a woman's health issue and republicans saying, no, it's he a spending issue. much of that is a public posturing to get the best political footing as we head into the last hours. >> all right. and we are hearing back and forth, certainly you were watching on capitol hill, we were watching it here today as well. hearing that, yes, boehner was given a number or boehn...

Serious about it. can you tell us who is doing the talking? are boehner and reid in contact today or are their staffers essentially locked down in a room trying to work things out? >> both. they've spoken by phone. the staffers have spoken by phone. president obama has spoke to both the house speaker and the senate majority leader. at this point, it's kind of hard to imagine that when you listen to what is going on in public, i can tell you, let's take an example of women's health, the social issue. i've spoken to some republicans who are very conservative socially who said, you know what? at ...

That's $317 million. what we're told is on the table now is to send that money -- send it back to the states to let governors decide what to do with it. well democrats say, no, because they believe that that's still dismantling what they consider a very important program to deal with women's health issues. now politically you might question we've been talking about the issue of abortion for a few days, why does this factor in to it. planned parenthood says they don't use any of this money for their abortion services because it is already illegal. but republicans i can tell you in talking to th...