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Programs and the total cost of what is going to be an -- what will have an impact on the economy, all of that has to be on the table -- >> piers, the laying -- >> the overall -- we have to look at the overall spending measures. >> we do and that's -- >> and borrowing -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> come on, marsha. >> let me jump in here for a moment. >> we have to say, okay -- >> okay, look. all right. -- >> where can we get these reductions? >> calling an end to this. as i suspected despite the view, it's ended with eye rolling, come on, marsha. this is why it's so difficult. even reasonable ...

Continuing resolution covers and say what is going to transpired in that window? the reason you have to have a discussion about obama care and look at what can possibly be delayed in that program is because it has gone from being an $863 billion program to an estimate of $2.6 trillion. >> that's -- >> no, no, no, those are cbo numbers -- >> no, no, you have to show me on the floor -- >> i will, i will show you. >> that's simply not true. >> i'll show you those numbers because when you're going to look at the cost of these programs and the total cost of what is going to be an -- what will have ...

Continuing resolution covers and say what is going to transpired in that window? the reason you have to have a discussion about obama care and look at what can possibly be delayed in that program is because it has gone from being an 863 billion-dollar program to an estimate of 2.6 trillion. >> that's -- >> no, no, no, those are cbo numbers -- >> no, no, you have to show me on the floor -- >> i will, i will show you. >> that's simply not true. >> i'll show you those numbers because when you're going to look at the cost of these programs and the total cost of what is going to be an -- what will ...

Reinvest in education and structure. >> you don't expect the president to call for additional spending measures on tuesday. >> he'll say we need to invest in making smart decisions and we need to make some cuts, too, but you have to do a balanced approach and republicans are proposing that we only cut spending and that's the recipe for economic disaster. that's the reason why sequestration according to economists will wreck and ruin our economy. we cannot afford to make that happen. >> let's talk about sequestration and it's an inside the beltway term. s there massive cuts, $85 billion worth o...

Could include new spending measures. this bill is all tax increases and very little spending cuts. when the republicans got together yesterday afternoon, there was a rebellion among house republicans. they all wanted spending cuts, both boehner and his number two, eric cantor put out a statement saying there was near unanimous concern about spending. the debate for much of the day is what do we tack on to this turkey the senate sent us? do cuts that we know kill it as the poison pill or there was some conversation about attaching cuts that democrats might find acceptable that the president has...