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For opioid abuse. they haven't spent what we appropriated last year. they can't figure out where to spend the money. this is crazy. if we separate the bills, honor our promise and repeal obamacare. it's very complicated to fix it. let's repeal it. >> neil: when would you work on that part? it's obvious that this broad-based support, unanimous among republicans for repealing it. but waiting a long time to find a replacement and going on to taxes could be problematic, too. >> i think you can do it concurrently. in fact, i think in the next three weeks, you can present two bills. one that repeals...

Republican party ultimately happy with that. >> martha: are you saying that you could basically pass this repeal bill that would kind of denying democrats and also some of the moderates in your own party from the opportunity to retain the parts of obamacare tt you don't like? >> no, they would get it in a separate bill, is what i am saying. there will be a repeal bill that i think everyone could vote for. it will repeal a certain amount of taxes and regulations, and read also use a medicaid reform. then, there will be a separate bill for the people who watch more spending programs. some of the...

Look at the numbers in these polls an what we heard about panelists who talk about getting more involved because we need to have that activist core to get things done because the government isn't getting anything done, the government meaning actual members of congress, not what government does, which they seem to be separating from what congress is. >> there is also an issue here, people and programs that benefit for them but don't like spending programs in the abstract. they always imagine it going to somebody undeserving or unlike them. when it comes to the actual cutting and if your ox is b...

To pay more for value instead of justin quantity of care and start making gradual changes to these large spending programs that are driving the entire budget. elizabeth: when he talks about the proposals on making some of those cuts to nondiscretionary, and they turn out to be unpopular with people who are affected, and sometimes those are his base, how does he walk that fine line in still making those certain cuts, getting rid of some of the waste but keeping his base happy? and some of those programs are necessary, some of those programs in the budget are necessary. >> he's proposing pretty ...

Same freedom caucus is going to raise the alarm about not increasing the deficit so they're going to want to see big cuts in spending somewhere, and there are many constituencies throughout the country that are going to rise up and try to protect those spending programs. it's going to be very difficult to get big policy changes done. >> i guess a crucial question is whether the president still trusts speaker ryan. >> well, he does, most certainly and i think you saw that yesterday when they were at the white house. they were talking, and the words he said afterwards. look what we have this wee...