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quite bizarre. people like breivik are trying to resurrect the idea of a modern day crusade, a real clash of civilizations against what they see as islamic invasion of europe. in fact, muslims make up only 3% of europe's population and that's likely to rise to between 5 and 8% by 2025 and level out at that point. but that doesn't change the reality of the anger, hatred and the violence. ironically, in breivik's nostalgic view of the medieval world, it resembles nothing so much as al qaeda, another terrorist organization fundamentally opposed to the modern world. we still don't know i...

put forward by a bipartisan senate group named the gang of six. most liberals don't like the gang of six approach because it would make cuts to social security and medicare. >> we are an anti-gang group. we are -- we're trying to suppress the growth of gangs. we think that it is not healthy for washington. most conservatives complain it doesn't cut spending enough and raises taxes too much. >> the gang of six is a five pages of sort of talking points. it's not an actual plan. >> but the president sees it as a framework for a potential -- potential -- breakthrough and perhaps becaus...

obama has just summoned congressional democrats to aarr white house. to be clear, democrats only. we're also hearing the top two house republicans, john boehner and eric cantor are to meet with mr. obama at 5:00 p.m. eastern time. so clearly a busy afternoon shaping up at the white house. tell you what, i want to take you now straight to senator coburn who is live for me. sir, good to have you on the program. let me just begin with this. we mentioned these meetings at the white house. my question is, is the fact that there's a democrats only meeting happening now at the white house, ...

Implications how we care for the elderly. >> i don't think that is fair. the way the debate will break down is defense of status quo or are we going to reform the system. >> no, i don't think -- >> what you would propose -- i'm sorry, what democrats propose is we maintain a system as-is and maintain the status quo. >> no. >> and republicans say we have to relook, look at this system in order to make sure that there are benefits -- >> i think the president has -- had a debt commission and the president said, as you pointed out, he has been dragged into say we need to have spending reduction, ev...

Cut would have been spent in the future or you are retracting it from the past so it doesn't affect the baseline. >> greta: i dug into it and i understand what you're saying this is what the american people hear. 38 billion cut from spending whether it is promises in iou's in the future, whatever. now they see the actual spending reduction -- >> no, no. >> greta: and they are hearing it is nonpartisan. >> the cbo is saying outlays. everybody agrees even the cbo report says outlays cut by 38 billions. however, by september 30th, there will be only 352 million dollars in cuts from the baseline s...