Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130103:11:15:00
Do. they're big things that affect large parts of the population, right? >> they happen to also be the only things that matter as long as long-term debt relief. >> this is where the logic of the grand bargain always made in the abstract always made the most sense because republicans, you know, could -- it was all going to be unpopular. so let's take hard votes that cost your side on taxes, that cost our side on entitlements. we can all get together and hold hands and go off this cliff together. republicans now think they have more leverage on the spending stuff. but if they really want to be s...