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>> and odd you add five. >> correct. >> okay. >> then what you would do is measure on top of the breast. so you want to make sure that you really -- >> don't crush them. >> don't breathe out. >> and don't breathe in and release. >> don't be afraid of what the measurement says. so after that -- >> i know. so conditioned to like want the smallest size. >> exactly. it doesn't matter. i found that women who have gone up in cup size have been much more happier with what they've come out with rather than stuffing themselves and avoiding that spillage problem that we referred to. >> that spillage thi...

Board. exactly. >> so even you add four -- yes. >> and odd you add five. >> correct. >> okay. >> then what you would do is measure on top of the breast. so you want to make sure that you really -- >> don't crush them. >> don't breathe out. >> and doan breathe in and release. >> don't be afraid of what the measurement says. so after that. >> i know. so conditioned to like want the smallest size. >> exactly. it doesn't matter. i found that women who have gone up in cup size have been much more happier with what they've come out with rather than stuffing themselves and avoiding that spillage prob...