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Quite a bit. >> that is the point. they are always in a spin-miester mode and as a result, much like mr. barr was trying to spin the mueller report, they want to get out there first to kind of spin it. but then the facts oftentimes dispute their spin. and certainly all of the text messages that we released last night show that volker and others, the bashar and mr. taylor was also very concerned about the quid pro quo. >> congresswoman jackie speier, democrat of california on the intelligence committee, thank you so much for your time. we appreciate it. we have talked about the damning text mes...

This. the needle he tried to thread is great and you talked about dual instincts for the president. lindsey graham tweeted about the possibility of attacking those oil refineries. he just said it again. but then you have another republican, mitt romney, saying it would be a grave mistake to have u.s. intervention and escalation like this. who has the president's ear more on this ? >> reporter: well, peoppy, we ae daily trying to figure this out. mike pompeo was the first u.s. official to call iran out by name, just, you know, within hours of the attack over the weekend. the president has been ...

Right now the president of the united states was able to take the mueller report and say no collusion and sort of spin it. i am wondering now, as i think about this more and more, without the impeachment banner, can they get the level of attention and america's attention on the issues that they want to focus on without putting it under the impeachment banner? we do live in a much more media fractured society than we lived in then. yes, all the focus was there. can you get that kind of focus without calling it impeachment? i don't know if you can at this point. >> you heard it from nancy pelosi...

Trafficking, i'm talking about the general subject of human trafficking, the larger picture. there's no allegation that any of the defendants were involved with human trafficking. they are not being charged with such. instead of talking about a particular defendant, i'd like to make the conversation broader because it's something we need to have reality check on what's going on out there when it comes to forced labor and forced sexual conduct. our prosecutors have been involved in this for some time. it's hard to pin.it. i have been aware of it for awhile. i have been involved in fighting huma...

I got you this wall. i always said we were not going to punish the kids brought here. we're going to get the bad people out of the country and we're still going to do this, and this is a victory. he could do a deal like that. spin it as a vibltctory. he's skilled in pr. but the steven millers, ann coulters of the world -- >> he keeps blinking, and that criticism, i agree, he could also say drones, the flying wall. look at my flying wall. you could spin a whole lot of things if he'd act consistently. but that's part of the new power dynamic in washington. and the president got a math lesson. th...