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Of trail of what their arguments have been, and it hasn't been what he told you. so i think part of it is what we're going to see over the next year, right, is this kind of spin-up over the people doing the investigation and not ever actually answering the allegations themselves. >> in fact, the lawyers have been very reluctant to specifically state in court how documents were declassified. and they haven't done that. so there is probably a reason that they have not done that. >> the reason probably is they don't know, right? >> in his defense, he never said they were going to wave a wand. he ...