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I don't know if this is a negative spin on this. maybe because he feels even more frustrated. he's ftrying to figure out what he can do. he was very splan tory. there's still a lot of fights to be had. but he talked about persistence and a connection queen the president and the public and that motivating persistence, but that's different than fighting. >> comparing politics to rolling a boulder up the hill is a little different from the way he began his life in politic, like with popping a champagne cork. this is tuff stuff. but he showed his own motivation. he said i remember every day. >> he...