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Moment. because everybody that i have spoken to who just experienced that 7.1 tremor, just experienced it differently. and i spoke to you earlier. and for you, it was of the scariest moments that you've experienced. >> i told you that earlier. i still feel that way, even after some of the shock of it has worn off. and i told you that i've been through some smaller earthquakes before. certainly we're often out here covering this. you hear from people about what the experience is like. but it sparked true and honest fear to be under that table with my colleagues, realizing that it was just sort ...

I can tell you this is appropriate up to less than two miles from that situation he would be accelerating. that would be what you would do in order to operate the train. >> but they indicate sod far from the black box is that the braking didn't occur until moments before the crash. >> as a matter of fact according to the reports i've heard, it was emergency application of brakes. if that's true, there was a reason he didn't do what ordinarily would take place. i wasn't there. i would tell you what i have done in that situation. with that equipment in that situation, almost as soon as i reached...