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It's partially religiously motivated? >> we always miss the religious currents before these stories. we missed it in iraq, we missed it in afghanistan, we are missing it here. i'm going to take it back to the vision of putin on the patriarch carrillo of moscow. they share one mind that anyone who is -- not ordained -- baptized in the russian orthodox church is de facto a russian citizen in the land they stand on is sacred russian soil. all of ukraine was under the moscow patriarch until 2019 when an ecumenical patriarch said you can be free of him. they created ukrainian churches, 700 parishes...

It's something that people -- it's the new normalization. this is how it works. the president is obsessed with being the center of attention. when he's not, he creates chaos, and then he gets all of the attention again. and so when it comes to congress, they're exhausted too. but the republicans have done very little to try to separate themselves from the president because they know his base is still strong. >> you know, john, we were talking about this earlier at our meeting. you know, under any other circumstance in a normal presidency where the president's struggling like this, you'd start ...