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>> the spoon thing is something politicians have used for decades before romney existed. >> obama himself used it to talk about harry reid, to talk about kent conrad in the past two or three years. he has said this himself. and the other thing is fine, you want to bring george romney into this. think about the message that obama was trying to convey there. it was basically an affirmation of the social contract. i got ahead because there was a safety net that was there to propel me and my wife forward. george romney believed deeply in the social safety net who supported education programs, anti...

Order to continue the practice of polygamy in mexico. they fled mexico, and yes, they had to leave some of their property behind which they still owned and romney still owned today. and when they got to this country, they got a deal, a welfare handout of $100,000 from the american government for mormons who were displaced from mexico. and so this -- my father was born poor, he knows is a lie. i mean, why even try that? >> the president didn't -- look, i mean, you can say he was sort of indicting romney by saying he wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth. but he was talking about getting ...