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a man in his 80s, for heaven's sakes. >> he was 85, and i was 19. >> they held the wedding in the living room of uncle rulon jeffs's sprawling house in salt lake city, september 17th, 1995. >> i resigned myself to the fact that that was my faith. just a surrender to it. >> this is macron storming? this 85-year-old? >> my prince charming? i just remember walking in, and feeling like -- just stand up, and do your duty. >> she wore the white wedding dress that she sewed herself, but she did not walk down the aisle. now here comes the bride, for her. just a brief exchange of vows, witnessed by her family, and uncle rulon jeffs many other wives. >> he could not stand up. he was leaning against a bench, and feeling what it felt like, because his hand was shaky. holding this old man's hand, i felt lost. why don't i feel like this is the right thing inside?
was his 19th wife. >> in the flds, world, the age does not matter. the standing with the profit. how, hero beauty, and honorable he is. in my case, this faithful man was the profit himself. >> rebecca's father told us that she wanted to marry the profit, but it was an honor, but oh no, says rebecca, her father was wrong. it was more of a horror. >> i did not want to marry rulon jeffs. >> he's an octogenarian. a man in his 80s, fierce heaven's sakes. >> he was 85, and i was 19. >> they held the wedding in the living room of uncle rulon jeffs's sprawling house, 1995. >> i resigned myself to the fact that that was my faith. just a surrender to it. >> this is macron storming? this 85-year-old? >> my prince charming? i just remember walking in, and feeling like --
>> you know, you finally got out in the desert, and he was going to get into the promised land. >> yes, the promised land. which is beyond imagining. as, the not so dumb blonde do so will. >> it was a madhouse. a wild west. >> so, maybe that is why. the thing on the south hill was not going to stay here. >> my life will never be the same, i am sorry. >> it was wintertime when it happened, christmas season, 15th of december, 2013. a sunday evening, after church. >> 9-1-1, what are you reporting? >> -- a man just came into our house and shot my husband i think. >> this is our story began. in an ugly splash of violence. terror. >> what is your address. >> hurry, south. garfield >> say that slow, or what are the numbers.
shane and seth ran the business. >> he'd give the shirt off his back to anybody. he just had a huge heart. he had enough room in it for everybody. huge heart. >> and taught you what you know. >> absolutely. every aspect of business. every aspect of life. >> when the kids were grown, doug and bertie ended up in spokane, to be near their favorite church, whose pastor preached the prosperity gospel, that is, the idea that god rewards true belief with financial success. well, they certainly looked successful when they bought that sprawling house on the south hill. >> they wanted to get an older house like that. it's something they loved. but they also always wanted all the family to come for all the holidays and spend it with them. >> so there's a bedroom for everybody. >> we all had our own room. worked out pretty good. >> did it look to you as if your dad and your mom were finally at the place where they were on the top of the hill? >> they were doing the best i ever saw them do. they were happy.
when the interview began detectives made no bones about it, they thought they had suckow, dead to rights. >> today is the day to help you out. i didn't come to you by accident. my killer left something up at the house, and your dna is all over it. no joke. the van at your work that you drive is on my video up there. >> you guys are scaring me now. you're looking at federal conspiracy to commit murder, fraud, life and present. -- a 20-dollar before we even do anything? >> that's your choice. >> these are serious accusations that you're saying. >> at this point we're probably beyond accusations at this point. okay. you can help yourself out. >> take me to jail, said in court, because you guys are not
they don't drive around in white vans, by any chance, do they? >> >> i checked that list, and lo and behold, they owned a vehicle that matched our vehicle in the video. >> well, well, well, what were the chances. timothy suckow must have been the -- muscular man in black running for dear life toward the equally mysterious van. we looked him up, he had a house in the, suburb house kids. >> we had the swat team sitting on him. we didn't want to take him to his house. >> when suckow and another man went to the house, they moved in. they photographed his many tattoos. >> mr. suckow is a hardened prison type individual, 275 pounds of solid muscle. few minutes we have some people were to deal and to settle. and tell you what's going on.
first responders had arrived some time earlier, put up their crime scene tape. sesnick walked into the house. >> it was just a weird scene all in all. this was december 15th. there's christmas music playing throughout the house. >> that's bizarre. >> it was very bizarre. they're very religious people, so there's religious scripture written on the walls. then you have this horribly violent and gruesome murder with a body laying on the floor that you're investigating. it was a very, very odd scene. >> 63-year-old doug carlisle was lying on the kitchen floor, clearly the victim of a close-range shooting. >> there was a lot of blood around the body. a lot of shell casings. a lot of bullets laying around. >> how badly was this person damaged? >> he'd been shot seven times. it was obviously a very brutal attack. it wasn't just a one time shot and the person ran out. >> clearly someone was making sure. >> correct. whoever had done this, we knew they wanted to make sure he didn't survive. >> and whatever happened here
no getting around it. spokane detectives burbridge and sesnick took a look at the clues dug up that first night. surveillance videos showing a white van circling the area. elberta's story about a masked shooter dressed in black. the video of a black-clad man running away. all that could mean only one thing. this was a hit, a professional killing. which begged the question, why would anyone want to kill a beloved, god-fearing grandfather, murdered while christmas music surrounded his big old house. >> it was almost a surreal scene. the house is decorated for christmas. christmas music playing. >> perhaps some answers would come from what detectives found in doug's office.
>> her story was concerning about a masked man wearing all black, coming into the house and shooting her husband and leaving and leaving her alive. made me worry that maybe she'd hired a hit man or maybe she was making up the story and she was involved in what happened. >> the thing was, the killer saw elberta. she came right out and said so. they stared at each other, soul to soul. so why would a hit man leave an eyewitness alive? unless she was in on it. >> i'm worried whether she had a motive, money, jealousy, a boyfriend, she has a girlfriend she's mad about. did she kill him herself? did she hire somebody? did she get one of the children to do it? these are all my concerns. >> besides, says burbridge, he's seen many people caught by sudden violence and grief, and elberta was agitated, certainly, but to his practiced eye, her emotional reaction was somehow
>> i'm in jail? >> the victim's wife, elberta carlile, told a crazy story about a man in black bursting into the house killing her husband, looking her square in the eye but leaving her alive. so, burbridge wondered, did she hire him? >> in my world, wives kill husbands. the relationship is a probability. >> but then up at the house they heard a curious story from a neighbor. that very evening for a couple hours before the shooting a mysterious white van was parked just across the street from the carliles'house. >> 911, what are you reporting? >> hi. i called crimestoppers because there's a suspicious vehicle in front of my house 30 minutes ago and now they just came back and sitting there and i'm really freaked out. >> of course, in many if not most neighborhoods in america, a parked white van might not attract a bit of attention. >> maybe i'm just being