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Groups that spread disinformation and also anti-muslim sentiment. it is a great case study, a frightening case study revealed in these papers. >> it brings the question of accountability. facebook has not been absolved of whatever role it played in the january 6th insurrection. one of many attempts to hold facebook accountable. what is your sense of what it would take to actually force them to change? >> i mean, i think it has to be many things at once. i don't think it is going to be one thing. there is no sort of silver bullet. the change won't come from within, that's for sure. mark zuckerb...
Democracy and walking slowly over to it with a bucket of water. and that is not what it is going to take to protect our democracy right now. if you look at what's going on, what is leading to this january 6th committee and the bannon defiance of a subpoena, it is straight out of a playbook that every scholar that has studied the downfall of democracies around the world have warned is the playbook. six things that every autocrat has done to dismantle democracies. they have politicized independent institutions like law enforcement, the civil service. they have spread disinformation. they have qu...
And you see people moving towards vaccines as it gets more personal. i think one of the more telling numbers is the fact that 90% of senior citizens -- >> yeah. >> -- people who -- a disproportionate share of people who spend time on facebook or who watch certain people who spread disinformation, nine out of ten seniors, despite all the stupid that they ingest every day from these stupid conspiracy websites, they're vaccinated. >> yeah. >> why? because they know. it's one thing to run around barking about, you know, and complaining about this, dr. fauci this, dr. fauci that. if you're a senior...
Entirely alternate reality where people could believe that vaccines don't work and masks don't work. people can believe that donald trump actually won the election. people can believe that climate change is not real or it's not manmade. and that's what we're contending with. this is not about differences of opinion about policy. it's about people living in an alternative reality. and i think what we have to get our arms around is how social media and technology has exacerbated the spread of conspiracy theories. when you have one major political party that is fine with that, that goes along wit...