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Resident, talk about words and their consequences. it just looked like the president was heading to go sit behind his desk, leaving john there kind of in the middle of the oval office clearly signaling the interview was over. looked like he wanted the ability to use towards and then consequences was another department. >> it was also a theatrical flourish. we see this often with president trump's television interviews. he is not only speak issing as president of the united states but according to some of his confident dants i've spoken to, he is playing the part of president trump, of donald t...

To have him as a print subject because he is not acting as much i find throughout my reporting as he does during some of these interviews where he likes the confrontation and relishes the drama. >> eugene, what about substance? >> let's talk about the substance. president trump said everybody is talking about it. only in the sense of a agreeing -- everyone agreeing that president obama did not tap his phones z not surveil him in any sort of way during the campaign. and that's now pretty well established, very well established. and president trump is the only one who keeps saying that this thin...

Over. looked like he wanted the ability to use towards and then consequences was another department. >> it was also a theatrical flourish. we see this often with president trump's television interviews. he is not only speaking as president of the united states but according to some of his confidants i've spoken to, he is playing the part of president trump, of donald trump, and that's why i've also found it as a print reporter it's different to have him as a print subject because he is not acting as much i find throughout my reporting as he does during some of these interviews where he likes t...