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The fact is, my concern when the president apologized so quickly, it gives the opinion to the afghans in the streets that the u.s. did this on purpose, that's why the president of the united states apologized. i'm like you and i agree with ralph. after 10 years would you have thought we were further along. but one of the problems in the 10 years our strategy, that's a failed strategy. thinking we can win hearts and mind against this culture, against this group of people at this time. so i think we have gone a bridge too far in what or goals in winning hearts and mind are. we don't have a good ...

The internet as any other way. to put photos and have them on every hack al qaeda website is just going to irritate people and inflame them. it serves u.s. policy to purpose. i hope they keep those photos locked up. >> what's this going on with the porn stuff? i get the feeling, i'm as pot patriotic as anybody, i'm getting the chance that cia is doing psy-ops. the guy could have had some underling soldier passing time with porn videos. we don't know what kind of porn. why are they putting out that information except to human late that whole operation? i understand why, but isn't that what they...

I hope they keep those photos locked up. >> let's talk about what they have released. i get the feeling, and i'm as patriotic as anybody. i get a sense that the cia is doing some psy-ops here. -second have been some underling soldier passing time had some porn videos. why are they putting out that information except to humiliate the whole operation. i understand why, but isn't that what they're doing? >> i think so, chris. they're managing masterfully, letting out pieces of information to try to discredit bin laden. while at the same time we're learning he did try to manage his organization fr...

Answer to that, but the phrase is on a need to know basis. i'm not sure i ever need to know that. look, they're guys, all right? they're terrorists, but they're still guys, is the bottom line. i do not think it has any operational relevancy to it. ty do believe his cable bill was huge because of the what pay-per-view he was ordering. >> some people would ask, is this psy-ops on our part? how much can we believe this happens? certainly it hurts their cause to have this out there. can we chalk it up to psy-ops? >> the government is not going to lie about what it found. if it did, inevitably that...

Visiting u.s. senators to afghanistan by a they-star general, general caldwell in afghanistan. well, one of the basis that michael hastings, to prove the point was a report you had a year ago in january on carl levine, senate arms services chairman where you were stunned by his reversal at the time on afghanistan policy. he was more optimistic than he'd ever been and this was the trip, apparently that hastings' reports where psy-ops takes place? >> it was pretty amazing. because i had been in a meeting where senator levin had expressed so many reservations about what we were planning to do in ...