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Which would be a major, major problem. look -- and i don't know if it's in there -- maria: [inaudible] >> i can't for the life of me understand -- well, why would you not be public about this? we've had this special counsel now, it goes on and on and on, it never ends. they're getting people on process fouls, they put forth information that makes it look like -- it's nice storytelling -- maria: yeah. >> -- because when you read these indictments, it reads like a secret spy novel of all these characters hanging out with russia. but the truth is they're getting them for process fouls, and they'r...

Russia and the soviet union did in the past, that comparison does not stand up well. and i have no idea why the president would try to do something like that. >> yeah. susan, i want to get your take on paul whelan, the arrest of paul whelan, a 48-year-old arrested in russia on charges of spying. the arrest comes 15 days after the alleged russian spy maria butina pleaded guilty in u.s. federal court. is this payback for the butina prosecution? >> well, look, the timing obviously of these two events strongly suggests there's some sort of a linkage. this is a very unusual spy case compared to tho...

Butina pleaded guilty in u.s. federal court. is this payback for the butina prosecution? >> well, look, the timing obviously of these two events strongly suggests there's some sort of a linkage. this is very unusual spy case compared to those we've seen recently play out in the sense that the russians have not given us more specific details. they allege that this american was caught in the midst of some sort of an espionage act, but they haven't given us any more evidence. when i was in moscow as a correspondent and there was a case involving british diplomats, they immediately trotted out on ...

She pleaded not guilty on charges of conspiracy and acting as a foreign agent. >> also taking pains to try to distance this case from what's going on with robert mueller's investigation. he insisted this is not a spy case and his client should not be treated as a proxy between the issues being carried out right now. >> i want to go straight to the former cia operative bob bears, what she did here, how significant it was, allegations, sex for political access. romantic relationship with a political operative. apparently that she said she didn't want to be with. do these allegations surprise you...

Pleaded not guilty. now, one of the arguments the lawyer made in court is that this is not a spy case. he insisted, wolf, needs to be treated differently and what is happening with special counsel mueller's investigation, what is happening with those russians, he said she should not be treated as a proxy for the difficult situation of russia. >> if you read the 17-page document the government released today, government memorandum in support of pretrial -- it read like a spy novel. >> it does. >> thank you. after the white house is forced to clean up another one of the president's comments of...