Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130524:17:12:00
>> and in fact, turning the ship around at the c.i.a., the c.i.a. has now since 9/11 been a paramilitary organization. as much as it is a spy-gathering, let's find secrets. it needs to be shifted very dramatically. and you've got john brennan there, who has the president's complete alliance and trust. but this is a big deal. >> it is. the c.i.a., pre-9/11 was about strategic intelligence, targets like china and russia. and post 9/11 became a paramilitary force. and we have to say, an incredibly effective one. it is largely the c.i.a. that disrupted al qaeda overseas in places like pakistan. jo...
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