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I think that goes against having good relations with your allies. >> a fair point. but of course, senator paul, people on the other side say america doesn't have the luxury of not spying when other people are spying. if your allies are spying on you, then you got no choice. >> yeah. didn't we have something about that when we were children about two wrong don't make a right? i would say i want our government to spy on terrorists, on people who they have probable cause they may attack us. but i think wasting time like spying on 70 million spaniards or 30 million french or 124 billion pieces of ...

Then you've got no choice. >> yeah. didn't we have something about that when we were children about two wrongs don't make a right? i want our government to say that on terrorists, on people who they have probable cause that may attack us. but i think wasting time, spying on 70 million spaniards or 30 million french or 124 billion pieces of information from americans, i don't feel any safer. but do i feel like my privacy is being intruded on. i think the rest of the world feels that way. the question is will it eventually have downer productive effects, us being that great spy lord for the whol...