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This contravenes our interest and underminds the american security and the security of our friends in the region, especially the israelis. >> gordon chang, it is a wonderful, interesting perspective on an unexamined component of the crisis. thank you for your time, sir. >> thank you. america spends tens of billions of dollars every year on secret spy programs. news of this so-called black budget came to the "washington post" earlier this week from nsa leak erred ward snowden. chief con -- leaker edward snowden. we look now at what is in these spy documents. >> a $52.6 billion top secret spy bu...

Called hop analysis the nsa traces a call made by a terror suspect but can track the records linked to anyone the suspect calls and on to anyone each of those callers contact, and so on. senator dick durbin was clearly uneasy. >> when you look at the reach of this program and it envelopes a substantial number of americans. >> reporter: frustration between senators and the intelligence community starting with how nas leaker edward snowden was ever granted access to the country's most guarded spy programs. senator patrick leahy dismayed no heads are rolled at the nsa. >> a 29-year-old school dro...

Other countries, it couldn't apply to because the data is not there and doesn't come into the u.s. >> that was quite a lengthy exchange with congressman hines. at the end of the day what was not answered whether the phone records database provided that critical tip or initiating lead that led to the uncover of the plot. senator critics most widely udall and another said the phone database just provided supplemental or a secondary level of confirmation on those tip tips. >> it was the most full throated defense we heard of the program since it was revealed. thanks so much. >> you're welcome. ...

Nation's counter terrorism strategy after september 11, and helped lay ground work for the secret nsa programs that are now generating so much controversy. now he is speaking out about those spy programs and the admitted leaker, edward snowden, in a rare interviews on fox news sunday. vice president cheney calling snowden a traitor and suggesting he could be a foreign spy. more on that in a moment. here is the former vp defending the government surveillance critical to our national security. >> we made a decision based on 9/11 that was no longer had a law enforcement problem and we're at war. ...

Definitely telephone. the individual responsible for leaking the two of these spy programs has now come forward and he spoke to the guardian newspaper yesterday. >> they specifically targets the communication of everyone. it ingests by default. it collects them in a system and filters them, analyzes them, measures and stores them. any analyst can target anyone. i sitting at my desk had the authority to wiretap you, to act account, federal judge or the president if ordered. it is dangerous to democracy. >> pretty chilling. let's talk about why is this important to you? number one, this is ameri...