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Mostly a partisan issue and that's slightly changing. up until now, if you think it's a good thing that eshic holder -- if you think of him as a historical figure, the first african-american attorney general, if you like that he has gone after voter suppression tactics and if you support the president, you probably support eric holder. if you don't like president obama, you probably don't like iric hoilder. that has been changing of late. have you seen over the nsa spying issue, a number of democrats and liberal media publications like the huffington post and others calling for his resignation...

>> in the impact segment tonight. president obama relevant understands the rah because of federal power on the spying issue could well harm him once he leaves office. i suspect that on a list of people who might be targeted, you know, so that somebody could read their emails or listen it their phone calls, i would probably be pretty high on that list so would juan williams and mary katharine ham. join us now from washington. mary katharine, start with you tonight. because i always start with juan we want' to mix it up a little bit here. karl rove believes that there isn't an abuse on this pris...

>> in the impact segment tonight. president obama relevant understands the rah because of federal power on the spying issue could well harm him once he leaves office. i suspect that on a list of people who might be targeted, you know, so that somebody could read their emails or listen it their phone calls, i would probably be pretty high on that list so would juan williams and mary katharine ham. join us now from washington. mary katharine, start with you tonight. because i always start with juan we want' to mix it up a little bit here. karl rove believes that there isn't an abuse on this pris...

>> in the impact segment tonight. president obama relevant understands the rah because of federal power on the spying issue could well harm him once he leaves office. i suspect that on a list of people who might be targeted, you know, so that somebody could read their emails or listen it their phone calls, i would probably be pretty high on that list so would juan williams and mary katharine ham. join us now from washington. mary katharine, start with you tonight. because i always start with juan we want' to mix it up a little bit here. karl rove believes that there isn't an abuse on this pris...

Coordinated and persistent attempts by the west enemies to carry out terror attacks. shep? >> thanks. now the question is about whether washington and moscow are working on a secret deal to trade accused spies. investigators in the united states rounded up 10 russian suspects just last week and right now, they're moving all of them here to new york. it's not clear if this could be part of a preparation for a swap but it's not the only sign we're seeing tonight. u.s. officials in d.c. also met with the russian ambassador there and the state department spokesman admits to fox news the spying iss...