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Information. >> in other words, he doesn't provide specifics. >> not at all. and that's the problem. we know it's legal in terms of the supreme court saying this information is not protected by the fourth amendment. we know congress iss -- >> the scandal would be a violation of our constitutional rights. that's the battle here, a battle between privacy rights and protecting our country in the aftermath of 9/11. but we as a country, the society, here i say republican and democrat, house and senate in the current political environment, neither of these bodies would vote to undue this program or ...

>> the leadership of senate and house intelligence committee says snowden is misrepresenting the facts, especially on nsa collection of web content. >> it is not a target on americans, it has to be a non-u.s. person believed to be on foreign soil. >> the program here is legal. it has been passed by department of justice as a legal program. it is carefully audited. >> a former intelligence agent says it could be leekds by a junior justice department lawyer because snowden is apparently implicating himself. the key is get to go snowden before he leaks again and before beijing inter gates him. >>...

Is why a spokesman for director of national intelligence james clapper noted sunday attorney jenngeneral eric holder launche investigation into possible prosecution. noting any person who has a security clearance knows that he or she has an obligation to protect classified information and abide by the law. with some on the left suggesting snowden is a hero for showing the extent of the surveillance, all eyes now turn to the president and how strongly he will weigh in. >> where is the anger and outrage. you seem to be saying well, it is being investigated. was the president personally angry abo...

From bill benny that worked at the nsa nearly four decades, starting as a data analyst in the days before desktop computers. after 9/11, the nsa began a warrantless surveillance program approved by president bush. >> it started with the telecoms providing billing data, records of people in the united states calling people in the united states. my estimate was that they were collecting on the order of 3 billion a day. >> 3 billion phone records? >> 3 billion, just spernl inter this country. >> they were spying on americans in this country. >> that's right. >> binney thought it was wrong and led...

Century president to have, the commander in chief, to keep us safe. there are going to be competing interests, civil libertarians, national security. we need to weigh those. we also need to make sure they're updated to modern times. and again, until -- unless and until we see abuse of this information, i'm not particularly concerned. >> jason, how would we even know. we didn't know about the program until this guy leaked it. >> how would we know? >> abuse, yeah. >> i guess a whistleblower would come forward and that would be a true whistleblower who pointed out such abuses. this is a hypotheti...