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I was struck while reading about this story that the pentagon, the united states, they say the test was not perceived to be a threat to the us or its allies. do you think thatis us or its allies. do you think that is a reasonable response to what we have seen happen? i think so. it is important to keepin think so. it is important to keep in mind that this icbm, even though it is the first test of its kind, is certainly not a unique capability that russia has similar missiles that can do similar things. the ss 18 has almost the same capabilities so it is not a new capability. it is to bischoff ...

Of frenzied aggressive rhetoric try to threaten russia — threaten russia. this from a president who sent his troops into ukraine, who is attacking ukraine. vladimir putin still trying to create this alternative reality, turning everything upside down, making out that it is russia that is under threat from ukraine, from nato, from britain, from america, and making out that he is acting in self defence. steve rosenberg there. ian williams is deputy director of the missile defense project at center for strategic and international studies. it is important to keep in mind that this icbm, even tho...

Be what would be deployed. could anthrax be deployed and could it work and kill a lot of people? >> yes, the soviet union did have warheads designed for biological weapons long-range missiles like the ss-18, but it's really not necessary. you could deliver an anthrax attack in miami or new york covertly and strategic impact and kill tens of thousands of people. >> reporter: it's impossible to determine because it's regime is difficult to penetrate. and they've been wrong about biological weapons in the past including in the runup to the iraq war. still, experts who study north korea point to w...

Substance, by which i mean, north korea, foreign policy substance. tell me what the significance of this missile test was? because what i -- i looked at it, and it seemed like an old soviet ss-18. and it's not entirely clear that the rocket was able to reenter. you know, these things often burn out in reentry. so given all that, and given that the soviet -- the ss-18 is -- what is it, 35, 40 years old. >> that's right. >> why is this a big deal? >> well, the first thing, fareed, is we didn't really see this big almost ss-18 coming. the pace of the north korean missile capability has been so ra...

Tell me what the significance of this missile test was? because what i -- i looked at it, and it seemed like an old soviet ss-18. and it's not entirely clear that the rocket was able to reenter. you know, these things often burn out in reentry. so given all that, and given that the soviet -- the ss-18 is -- what is it, 35, 40 years old. >> that's right. >> why is this a big deal? >> well, the first thing, fareed, is we didn't really see this big almost ss-18 coming. the pace of the north korean missile capability has been so rapid over the past year, that it raises the question, why didn't we ...