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Really go at this, to own this issue saying we want to decimate or take significant cuts to these programs. >> but i have seen over many years almost a war on the poor from certain segments of -- start to go say the political right but it's not just the political right. i mean, there is a segment of the population and a large segment of the elected officials who are just hostile to the poor who do not want to give the poor benefits and who blame people who are not doing well economically for the economic problems the country is having, budget deficits and that sort of thing. >> one of the thin...

Rifling through here. because you have to get up to speed on that one, because this measure goes back to amending and correct i correcti bill that will be voted on. seemingly arcane. that's why we're spending a weekend in washington to go through it with you guys on fox news and fox business. but we felt obliged to do that. howard, what have you learned thus far? what is in the amendment, the overlay that was score and judged today that addresses the underlying 2000-page-plus senate bill? >> a lot of sta ttistics in the beginning on amounts to be paid. that's why it took so long. >> neil: numb...

We're talking 4 out of 10 latino voters have a personal relationship with somebody who is being deported or is in the process of deportation and that changes you. >> so how does that mesh with the sta ttistics from the "l.a. times" story? the "l.a. times" story, there's a quote in there that says, look, if you're settled in the united states, if you're working, you have essentially zero chance of being deported. it's basically people who might quickly cross the border for an hour or something and are apprehended. >> quickly cross the border or come back because they have established lives n. a...