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Never classified information transmitted. the account was never transferred or housed at the trump organization. no emails were ever deleted. there is a laundry list being provided. >> this is a distinction. it is still a sin but it is certainly not the same one. >> bill: on that count you guys kind of split here. so he didn't copy all your notes. jonathan turley, thank you for your time. we need to get turley and dershowitz side-by-side and go at it. thank you so much in washington, d.c. >> sandra: former georgia governor candidate staci abrams still upset about her election loss. >> was the ...

People who were hired reflect the diversity of that state. that's a really big point. authenticity really matters. you have to have people who look like and sound like and share the experiences of the people whose vote they're trying to court. i hope this also lays to rest the silly notion that black folks won't turn out unless there's a black person at the top of the ticket. in the case of staci abrams whose fund-raising has been increasing since the alabama win because people were like, oh, maybe black folks will turn out. of course we will if you do the work. they tried to tell staci abrams...

For governor in georgia. there was a jason johnson story where he wrote about some of the fractiousness. you actually got caught up in it as well. what in the world is going on in the party? >> we have nazis running around with tiki torches and we're not talking about issues. that's what's going on. we're not having a both and conversation whenparty. we're having an either/or, african-american american women or progressives. what's going on in georgia is very interesting. staci evans and staci abrams are running for governor of georgia.

The point of these numbers? you almost have to go nuclear against stacey abrams for her to win the primary. >> a governor's race in new jersey and virginia are sort of important milestones to show democrats are able to win elections in these off years. you have this infighting. chris jansing did a round table with democratic voters in racine, wisconsin this month. >> how many of you think the democratic establishment is doing a good job right now? one tentative hand. how many of you think the democrats could blow a real opportunity in 2018? >> i do. >> absolutely. >> all five? >> jimmy, what's...