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Had been hacked from hillary clinton and democratic sources. roger stone, who was associated with the trump campaign, although he never formally had a staff position on the campaign as far as we know, special counsel's office says that roger stone told his friend jerome corsi that he needed to get in touch with wikileaks about those stolen clinton documents. when the special counsel's office asked jerome corsi about that, what they're saying now in this draft charge is that corsi lied to them when he told them that he turned roger stone down. he said, no, no, i won't get in touch with wikileak...

It might do with those materials. so, again, those are the false statements as outlined in this potential criminal charge. this is from the draft criminal information that apparently was provided to jerome corsi from the special counsel's office. again, a draft, not filed with the court, but given to corsi. here what's we want to charge you with. here what's your plea agreement would look like. if you want to boil down all the nonspecific nouns there that make it sort of hard to read out loud, what this charge says is that jerome corsi lied to the special counsel's office and he lied to the fb...

A great guy. i mean i know matt whitaker. >> i know matt whitaker, he says. that was just last month. in addition to the president's own words, we know that trump has met with whitaker dozens of times at the white house. as well as talk to him on the phone. in fact, according to "new york times," white house chief of staff john kelly has him considered whitaker as the eyes and ears at the justice department. the times reports that the white house counsel interviewed whitaker last year about possibly joining trump's legal team as an attack dog against robert mueller. that's right. the same robe...

Columnist who gets to be president of the united states. that's like the hybrid we're dealing with. >> right. >> and has a show. >> and has a show on cable preferably. to actually reality check this for a second -- and you worked in the white house -- this is a mid-level staff position. we're back to communications director -- that we're treating like a photo op as if it's a foreign leader visiting the west wing, in the rose garden having this big ceremony on all the networks all of a sudden. this is the communications director of the white house and there is a great deal of discussion who rep...

As we go forward in the months ahead. >> other questions about other folks in the white house because of some of the recent departures, here was steve bannon talking aboutsees in ter of staff position. >> general kelly at any time decides to leave the president, the president decides it's time for him to move on, i don't think there will be another chief of staff. i think there will be five or six direct reports like in trump tower. the president is a more hands-on manager and feels more comfortable with that. the structure general kelly put in was probably too much. >> too much. >> talking ab...