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I think you have to have a staff structure that works around the way he operates. it seems to be in place for a while but, rob porter who was the staff secretary who helped control things is gone. general kelly who seem to have instilled some order is now finding himself feuding with jared kushner. that created its own set of chaos. and i think you have the reality that some of the top issues that were bubbling along have now come to the surface. trade for example which you have very interesting conversation on was always going to split the white house staff. that was below the surface. carrie...

>> kennedy: what kind of thing was reince priebus running? this attorney general is needed to impose order. >> sandra: exactly, what does that tell you about ivanka trump and jared kushner telling him when they want to be with the president? >> david: it was a lot looser. there is a staff structure that has to be in place. they can talk to dad anytime they want, but as the president of the united states and that oval office, there's a time when the priority goes to the attorney general, or whatever the case may be. >> harris: i caught something else in all of that when they were talking about ...

Reince priebus is not the one to blame for such behavior. this all comes down to the president and his behavior and his way of doing things and the casual way that he ran his business in new york where he really kept a very loose schedule, and people came and went, and he picked up the phone and and call different people at different times depending on what he was focused on at the moment. white houses can't operate that way. the staff structure that exists in the white house traditionally -- which was developed over many years and many administrations -- is there, is that way for a reason. an...

>> the first thing i'd say is reince priebus is not the one to blame for such behavior. this all comes down to the president and his behavior and his way of doing things and the casual way that he ran his business in new york where he really kept a very loose schedule, and people came and went, and he picked up the phone and and call different people at different times depending on what he was focused on at the moment. white houses can't operate that way. the staff structure that exists in the white house traditionally -- which was developed over many years and many administrations -- is there...

>> the first thing i'd say is reince priebus is not the one to blame for such behavior. this all comes down to the president and his behavior and his way of doing things and the casual way that he ran his business in new york where he really kept a very loose schedule, and people came and went, and he picked up the phone and and call different people at different times depending on what he was focused on at the moment. white houses can't operate that way. the staff structure that exists in the white house traditionally -- which was developed over many years and many administrations -- is there...