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And then there will be another heat with everybody else, which is going to be the fun one, that's the candidates who have at least 1% in the polls. i don't actually know how many podiums yet. we get ten candidates is the headliners in the cnn planet, the rest, i think. i don't know if they do them as an opening act or the late show. i don't know, but everybody be kind to your bartender. joining us is steve kornacki. i had no idea how this was going to work out. was this the most likely scenario all along and i didn't see it coming? >> how cute were they going to be with the criteria, a lot of ...

Bashing hillary clinton and leaving out the one female candidate in the race. >> if you have 10 to 15 candidates up there, she's running probably about 13th place, if you want to extend the criteria in some way that includes her, it's lard to leave out someone like george pataki, there are obvious problems with this, first of all, the question is, the average of five most recent polls. which are they going to allow? they didn't say. ppp, a pretty credible firm, but a democratic firm, i'm assuming they're not going to include that. a lot of these polling averages we look at do include now. the ...