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Here. when you look -- there are some names that are not small names, at least for those in the belt way and those who talk about politics like the two of you do, kirsten gillibrand being one of those, and eric swalwell another one of those. what did you see when you look at this layout of the numbers? >> i'm guessing that the lead in the polling really want a smaller debate stage and are wondering what these people with less than 1% are going to be doing on the stage debate with them. >> they won't be if they have less than 1%. >> and there are polls that some of those average out to 1%. but ...

We never saw lindsey graham on the same debate stage because of roulettes the networks used to determine who could be in the main stage debate. it was polling rather than who are good debaters? >> lindsey graham was a fantastic debater. he was so strong in his anti-trump message. he was better than anybody else on that main stage. to see the two of them having had the chance to go at it and really talk about issues, talk about substance, talk about the nature of it, talking about that proposed ban on muslims which lindsey graham was so against would have been great to see them together. >> wou...

>> donald trump and his policy on muslims, is the gop undercard. but while george pataki was criticizing, he also gave him a promotion. >> we have suggested mr. trump's plan is unamerican and absurd, why? >> absolutely. it's one of many absurd things this president has said. >> did you catch that? so did donald trump, who retweeted, donald trump, pataki just called you this president, to which trump added, i don't want his endorsement. coming up, we'll preview the matchups in the mean stage debate which hasn't yet started. that's next.

Spend any money or reserve ad time in the united states. a good-natured rand paul admitted his hopes tonight are probably overoptimistic. >> i'm hoping the rest of them will drop out. >> john kasich prepared for the debate by shooting hoops with the milwaukee bucks. >> well all the candidates have said they want to focus on substance, they want to talk policy. issues, don't want to throw names at one another. the second tier starts in less than 50 minutes. the main stage debate starts at 9:00 tonight and all the candidates would probably like to throw at least one elbow before it's over. we'll...

No one hurt. crews still surveying all that damage. eight republican candidates making the main stage debate. marco rubio coming under scrutiny as his poll numbers and popularity is going up. joining me is one of his colleagues. i know you have a big announcement today, congressman. what is it? >> thank you for having me on today. i've looked at the field and concluded the best man to lead america forward is marco rubio. i know him. i know he can undo the disasterous policy that this president has led us down. he understands the american dream. i look forward to working shoulder to shoulder ...