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Five times or so more powerful than the hiroshima bomb. it was probably a boosted weapon. not a two-stage device, but 1 1/2 stage device. they're fudging it basically. however, i don't doubt that one day they will be able to do this. the same thing was said about china back in the 1960s. people said china would never be able to create a hydrogen bomb. well, they did. in fact, the last detonation was in 1980. it was a chinese hydrogen bomb. so i think that even though they don't have it now, i don't think they have it, i think it's only a matter of time before they do. we have to act as if they...

Impressi impression. you saw the pita shaped warhead. >> that's what we've been showing. >> it's designed to show there is a stage at the end of that warhead. in fact, u.s. nuclear warheads we know are shaped roughly like this. they are oblong and egg shaped which suggests that there's room for two separate stages in there. we can't know for certain whether they've obtained this capability, but from the seismic data we know that it had the power. that doesn't mean that it's impossible that it was, you know, one of the previous warhead designs, but when the yield gets high enough, you just can'...