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Cooperation agreements and they don't want to cooperate anyone who they think will be providing false information. number three, trump and his team do not appear concerned about manafort. these are things we can all draw from the last few days. that leads me to believe that it might not be trump that manafort has offered up to the special counsel. or at least trump believes that manafort can't possibly hurt him. otherwise if at this stage manafort is cooperating against trump, his hope for a pardon was all for naught and maybe he went through a trial for nothing. >> think of how much the presi...

There is something worth pleaing about, which is whether he has solely to do with manafort or something bigger at this stage. donald trump spend the weekend, i honestly believe it was the closest to dereliction of duty of any president in america's history, given what we now know happened to this country in 2016. so there will be ways in which donald trump will try to isolate himself from even manafort at this stage. but i think it's a really -- it's a really bad moment for manafort. he's going to have to make a decision. and the prosecutors are going to have to determine whether manafort, wha...

>> well, gates can bring new pressure. but we also saw evidence on friday that bob mueller's team said that they have evidence of new bank fraud that paul manafort might be involved in. a 68-year-old man. even 10, 12, 15 years in federal prison could be a death sentence for him. and so there's nothing about paul manafort we've seen that says to me that this is someone who wants to risk dying in federal prison. >> laura, the white house says they're not worried because gates is flipping against manafort, should they somebody. >> yes. they should be. if there's reason to be. that's kind of the i...

New bank fraud that paul manafort might be involved in. a 68-year-old man. even 10, 12, 15 years in federal prison could be a death sentence for him. and so there's nothing about paul manafort we've seen that says to me that this is someone who wants to risk dying in federal prison. >> laura, the white house says they're not worried because gates is flipping against manafort, should they somebody. >> yes. they should be. if there's reason to be. that's kind of the innocuous way of putting it. it may be that manafort is the biggest fish in the category of money laundering, but if rick gates is ...

With manafort. but it could be two separate tracks. gates flipping on manafort may not mean manafort will flip on trump, but it will make donald trump's transition team and the inauguration team very nervous. >> yeah, i remember that gates will be the third person to make a deal with mueller. george papadopoulos and michael flynn being the other two. thank you all, glad we got you back, juliette, thanks a lot. would you pay to have dinner with donald trump jr.? the president's son hosting dinners for the buyers of trump-branded condos in india. are they using the presidency to promote the tr...