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Conversations on january 6th have no bearing on the investigation? these are about who the president was talking to as people were breaking windows and climbing into the capitol. if these documents are released, barbara, how bad could that end up being for trump? and should we expect his lawyers to continue to fight to slow this investigation down despite that excerpt i read there from the judge? >> i think stall tactic is always the m.o. we've seen by trump from the duration of his administration. he famously himself said i'm going to fight all the subpoenas. so i think he'll fight to keep th...

Conversations on january 6th have no bearing on the investigation? these are about who the president was talking to as people were breaking windows and climbing into the capitol. if these documents are released, barbara, how bad could that end up being for trump? and should we expect his lawyers to continue to fight to slow this investigation down despite that excerpt i read there from the judge? >> i think stall tactic is always the m.o. we've seen by trump from the duration of his administration. he famously himself said i'm going to fight all the subpoenas. so i think he'll fight to keep th...

It's very difficult to predict whether a court is going to summarily just dismiss these claims, find them meritless, you know, for example, the president argues that there is no legislative purpose to the congress's investigation. but actually, there is. there are bills that are being considered now, including one that's called the protecting our democracy act, that even includes provisions about strengthening congress's ability to enforce its subpoenas. so, there are things that congress is consideri ing legislatively to rein in a future executive that abuses that office. and so, it -- it rea...

Capitol hill where a house committee of january 6 is set to hold a contempt referral vote for steve bannon. joining us now are "washington post" national reporter and co-author of "i alone can fix it" and donya perry. hello to both of you. one of the things in donald trump's life is he uses video to press issues. he is now suing the national archives to block the release of his white house records. what might he be trying to keep out of public view? >> first off, jeff, you're absolutely right about your overall summary about the stall tactic. also the fairly broad use by the president when he ...

Committee will decide whether to hold trump ally steve bannon in contempt for defying its subpoena and refer the matter this sets in motion a process which really hasn't been used in decades. now, bannon is hanging his defiance on a claim of executive privilege, but that's something the current white house vigorously opposes. cnn has obtained a letter from white house deputy counsel that states the biden administration will not support any attempt by bannon to refuse cooperation with the house committee. >> this issue took on more urgency last night. former president trump suing the january 6t...