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Word, there was an elderly woman and her husband sitting in the audience. they got a shot of her and got a big laugh. >> turn the volume down immediately. she can't be stopped. there is something wrong with her. >> nonstop laughs. writer steve o'donnell said dave never thought he was good enough. >> it could be painful to people close to him. i have saved dozens of little notes he would write and they alternated between i hate myself and stand by show. he would underline stand by show. >> even as he worried about his own success, dave paid it forward as carson had done for him. >> you better b...

On air for letterman, his younger rivals are grabbing those coveted viewers. ♪ i want to rock right now >> you know, he's not surprising anybody at this point by being david letterman. we all know what david letterman is. yet he's still doing things you absolutely have to see. >> it's too damned hot! there you go! >> late-night observer bill carter has been seeing signs that dave has been winding down. >> he really hasn't done any of the bits he used to do. he doesn't really -- he doesn't even go to rehearsal. there are people who say he probably should have left when he was closer to the pe...

Letterman's late show. >> it really hurt letterman and it became an extremely difficult struggle for him to count all that momentum at nbc. >> if you want to influence a congressman, you have to send him a full beer can. that's not -- >> jay leno went on to win the ratings wars for 15 years. gradually, dave made peace with it. >> he is more comfortable as the hipper, slightly skewed show with the slightly skewed attitude than being at number one. >> it doesn't matter what the ratings are. it really doesn't matter. the fact of the matter is, dave is the best there ever was. dave started somethi...

>> you know, we could get in a two shot here. we could send the crew home. >> movie stars wanted in with dave, too, but they got no special treatment. turn the pig on. >> please welcome cher. >> he was suspicious of celebrities. famously, when cher went on, he's not being the friendly or the greatest, you're the best, you're fantastic, you're cher. he's prodding. >> why finally after nearly 4 1/2 years did you decide to come on? >> i thought i would never want to do this show with you. >> now, why? why? because you thought i was a -- >> an ass. >> and it was like this electric moment. no one c...

Thank you very much for being on the program again. you know it's been three years since the last time you were on the show. and i will just say right off the top here, you look different than what i remember of you. >> the late show, january 2009. >> joaquin phoenix was acting crazy. >> what do you -- what do you have them on? >> what? >> what do you gas them up with? >> it was like watching a surgeon, a really good surgeon. it wasn't even watching a surgeon. it was watching a maestro. >> what can you tell us about your days with the unibomber. >> he told you without specifically telling you ...