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He said i can't protect you out there. he said you are on your own and he said if things start to go down he said, and i try to come out and arrest anyone who's being physical with you, meaning me he said i am going to incite this whole place. he said i cannot incite a riot here in order to save you, meaning the media out here to cover this. >> joining me now, president and director counsel of the naacp legal defense fund. thank you for being here. so the mayor -- >> thank you. >> -- says she didn't give exactly a stand down order but didn't deny that she handled this in a way that she thought...

Bottles. you had firefighters putting out that fire at cvs. one saw one of the rioters clipping the hose as he was trying to save that building. they need things to get through their day. to say you need space to destroy is irresponsible. >> it's ironic they start ripping on the firefighters and cops for not putting out the fire on the cvs. then you see the hose get hooked up you see the fire hydrant get engaged then you watch two guys separately within two minutes go over and knife the hose. and -- >> that was their space to destroy, brian. they just needed space. al. >> it sounded from what ...

This was and is an out of control mile. and as a result of the act that occurred to you will be an active tomorrow night, this mob has taken advantage of the night and this mall. i can tell you, kelly and heather, they own the streets of baltimore baltimore. and this is an embarrassment. >> if there with a is a stand down order, who do you think issued that stand down order? >> it is hard to ou wonder if the bolt more commissioner and mayor, the question mark is are they on the same page. because you can see where law enforcement officers were being pelted with rocks and bottles and what they ...

I think arrests will be made. >> but what if they tried as they did with the ferguson sympathy protests in knew yo trying to shut down the highway, what do you do? >> hard lessons learned from them. mass arrests, if that's the case. this would be right around rush hour. i think the intent of the protesters is to cause as much destruction as possible. i think you'll see the nypd who is better at this than anybody, will show that they are in charge. >> when you look at the footage that we're getting out of baltimore, did you no he that there was a stand-down order with the police especially at t...

Burial hoorere of mr. freddy grace. i think not only was the city not prepared but i think you will find that luaw enforcement officers would have liked to take a more aggressive stance and i think from all indications there is some of what a stand down order and there is a situation where you need to be aggressive and take control of the city. when you find young thugs who found that police officer who are not taking control, these thugs decided it take control themselves. >> and ted, this of course takes away from the real ush u and that is what happened to freddy gray while he was in police...