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Bankruptcy. frankly i can't see a path that we get through this without bankruptcy. and we're very fortunate. we threaded the needle multiple times to find financing and find backers to keep us afloat during that time. >> with the very survival of the company in the balance, they relied heavily on what jeni calls talent, hustle and guts. qualities they look for in their employees and partners but never expected would be tested. >> you want to say you've got talent and hustle and guts but you don't really know until you prove it. this was our proving it moment and we came together and figured i...

As long standing argument. a few years ago, he argued yes, putin is a bad guy but he should be our allies. that was the view that he brought into the white house, look, the white house is not going to waiver in saying there is no there, there. it is hard to handicap criminal investigations as the same way we watch a political campaign. this is turning on and you can see the anxiety among some of the president's defenders. i want to talk about voters fraud commission, secretary of state. in new hampshire, the president's election commission, ahead of that commission, columnicolum columnist for ...

Nefarious than the intent at the time. so i think similar point relates to -- i think a good example of what i'm talking about is with jeff sessions. there were accusations that he covered up meetings with the russians. those meetings were innocent arranged for him by others. one was a passing meeting where many other people were present. its true that he didn't declare it and make it a big deal and felt he had to recuse himself from anything to do with russian. all these intricate details in the end, what do they add up to? do they add up to a standing argument that the president of the u.s.a...

Will that make it harder for you to argue that the state of washington -- could you make the same claims with this order as you did with the last one? >> so we recognized that the revised order, chuck, is more narrow. it does not apply to as many people as the first, extremely overbroad order did. we recognize that. we filed 50 or 60 declarations like other states who have joined the litigation all showing harm, for example, to our colleges, universities, students at those colleges, who -- it impacts those institutions as well as folks in our state whose loved ones, fiancéses and loved one ca...

Muslim ban will never stand. the supreme court will not give weight to the fact that the president during his campaign talked about a muslim ban or rudy giuliani did, not going to fly in the supreme court. standing argument probably won't fly. it's most extreme standing argument i've ever seen made. argument that because you exempt religious minorities establishes a religion is absurd. war rfgy interact 1934 applied tonal jews because victim of nazi -- that was constitutional. they have a hard case but going to take months and if president really believes security of the country is at stake, h...