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Clause of the constitution, what do you think? >> i'm extremely skeptical that this will lead to anything serious in terms of an impact on president trump. you know, the eel momoluments c has never been applied in the modern world and i think this is a political attempt to interfere and damage the presidency. i don't think it's going to lead to anything significant, and -- and, remember. even the discovery process which, is you know, where they might get the tax returns, that's only going to take place after the administration moves to dismiss the lawsuit just on standing grounds, on the groun...

That's changing the law. >> we have to be careful here. i understand that you may feel that way. >> what do you mean feel that way? it has happened dozens of times. >> i would argue with great detail and using irs regulations that he had the right to. but you want to talk about that as a lawsuit? we're talking about the lawsuit. >> the fact is whether or not suing the president for extending over his bounds as president is worthwhile. is it or not? >> no it's not. the lawsuit in all likelihood will get tossed on standing grounds. why? they don't like to get involved in the squabble. >> we expe...

Generally over seeing the program as it rinuns. not generally doing a broader constitutional analysis. and though not everyone realizes it, what was different about last week's ruling, it was the only case that didn't get dismissed on standing grounds, where people were actually allowed to get into the merits and that overruled it. do you think it's fair to sort of try to put that on equal footing with the secret court rulings? >> well, i -- it's actually not true that the fisa court does not look at the constitutionality of the program. the fisa court does evaluate both the constitutionality ...