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Investigation and have this sent to the senate once? >> i'm going to ask my stuff -- i believe the clinton investigation moved more quickly after the starr report arrived in congress than we have so far. your basic question is an excellent one. you ask an excellent question here. all i can say is that we have a clear and present danger to our democracy right now because of the electoral corruption. this president invited in a foreign power to come and interfere in our election. he used all of the resources of his office to cooers president zelensky to come in to make these announcements that h...

Hear him -- well, he said that was different in terms of the starr report coming out, but here he's saying that back then, it was fundamentally different. he's really casting aspersions on the legitimacy of impeachment back then as comparing it to now and the truth is that these are political arguments. republicans have a different vision of what it was in 1998. >> i just don't think he used his strongest argument there. >> susan, we want to give you the last word here. a closing thought on what we've seen today. >> look, i think the key testimony of individuals like mick mulvaney, somebody wh...

House, basically the defend's house, and preparing a trial with the defendant? i mean, whenever would that ever happen? it certainly didn't happen in the clinton impeachment which i was involved in. and there you had the democrats and the republicans coming together to make up the rules. and by the way, here you have some of the same republicans who in the clinton impeachment said, the republicans said, you know, this process is fine. that was a fine process. here are the same republicans saying, the process doesn't work. and by the way, those same republicans who said the process was fine the...

Secondly, the democrats on the committees took it very seriously. even before the starr report came out, dick gephart said this might be impeachable. he was on a conference call with his caucus saying, hey, everybody. vote your conscience here. this is just -- this is important stuff. and then i guess thirdly, the president acknowledged what he did. and then went on a tour of apologies. you know, culminating in the national prayer breakfast where he gave a soulful speech about what was wrong. republicans have just tried to burn the house down. and they have mocked the entire process. and this ...

Their country and their oath of office ahead of their party and their curious allegiance to this president. >> that is such a difference than what we're hearing today. okay. paul begala, your turn. here's the time machine when we go back to a younger and almost as handsome paul begala that day. >> it has been, i think, bitterly partisan. and not in a way that the framers of the constitution probably would have admired. when the house republicans led by speaker groundhog are rushing out grand jury material straight out into our living rooms and classrooms. when they release a report without giv...