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That hearing. but he was never going to be someone who had the performance skills to go into that room and deliver perry mason moments and convert american opinion from being at least on the fence about impeachment to being strongly for it. you know, compare it, brian, to let's say with richard nixon in the wake of the saturday night massacre, october of 1973, there was just a thunderous move among americans toward feeling that richard nixon should be impeached. same thing in this country after the starr report with bill clinton. we haven't seen something like that. so if there's going to be a...

Recently on the report he wrote. i don't think it's going to depend on that performance and that hearing. but he was never going to be someone who had the performance skills to go into that room and deliver perry mason skmoemts convert american opinion from being at least on the fence about impeachment to being strongly for it. you know, compare it, brian, to let's say with richard nixon in the wake of the saturday night massacre, october of 1973, there was just a thunderous move among americans toward feeling that richard nixon should be impeached. same thing in this country after the starr r...

Ruling. if they don't, they get a whole lot of wasted time. >> jessica: they talk about the constitutional duty. that's what it was elizabeth warren says. "i don't care, the sun is obviously not agree to vote to impeach him, but it's important that if we believe he has obstructed justice --" and there are ten points but laid out in the mueller report -- "that we move forward with it." >> harris: what about everybody else and congress on health care? >> jessica: they do. that's why i mentioned lauren underwood, she is an exciting new health care bill. it can't pass the democratic house right no...

Chief." but when you break down the numbers he led more than any other president on the issue of deporting people who were committing crimes while in country after committing the original crime after crossing or overstaying visas. crossing the border or overstaying visas illegally. when you look at it, this shouldn't even be a political issue. this should be an issue about our sovereignty as a nation. and everybody ought to be on the hill, coming up with ways. senator daines is coming up with a way to shore up the white house on this. in terms of making the argument again, taking a second bite...

That includes eight democrats, by the way. we knew about the decisions he made and that through a snake case. but it all changed without mine and "miami herald" report back in november. the report that showed the degree to which the law was bent a little bit. everything was done legally, but at the influence of -- >> melissa: but the sticking point was the victim's. >> harris: that's what everybody comes back. >> david: that's with a "miami herald" focused on. more than any other piece of reporting in the past year, that piece of reporting deserves a pulitzer prize of the very least. because t...