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This restaurant in the capital caracas at seven as usual but outside shops a shuttered unable to do business venezuelans are quite familiar with power outages but this time the question is how long it will last trams and subways are off buses are packed full many commute hours on foot. by next hour have any i was traveling to buy groceries cheese and mace but now all the shops are closed and the a.t.m. start working event but it did everything you know why. are they looking for let's imagine ourselves in a hospital right now what would an emergency be like right now in a hospital. i don't even...

Apartment like this! so what kind of future do you imagine now that you're in a place like this? >> the goal is to youn, start working. i'm going to get my social work degree. >> okay. >> give a little back. >> absolutely. give a little back. >> that is why angels of u ban pathways are my role models. i want you to hang on to this card. champions for change ch out there proving what can happen with a little old fashioned compassion and a new idea. you trust me? you trust me? you got him. he trusts you, bill. >> he trusts me. he's a tough nut to crack though. i have to keep going back to that g...

Your relationship? >> friendly. >> talked a lot. >> sometimes. >> when you worked on a deal, talked on the phone, in person? >> mostly in person. i was two doors down. i would go upstairs and speak to him. but to return to your question about how is it that i meet people like that, as an example, knocking on donald trump's door and saying hi, let's start working. when i was working on telecommunications deal, i was invited to a dinner party in moscow. and there was a lot of russians there. i was there and a guy walks in, an american guy older. and somebody says, you guys should meet each other...

I would go upstairs and speak to him. but to return to your question about how is it that i meet people like that, as an example, knocking on donald trump's door and saying hi, let's start working. when i was working on telecommunications deal, i was invited to a dinner party in moscow. and there was a lot of russians there. i was there and a guy walks in, an american guy older. and somebody says, you guys should meet each other. you're both cia agents. i thought it was a joke. and all evening long. >> he's predicting your future. >> i think so. i think he was. and he is sitting there and pepp...

Assuming that democrats want to work with republicans. look, this began when obamacare was passed, it was ran through congress without consulting -- without any republican votes. so they began this. and i don't see a genuine effort by democrats to really want to sit down with republicans to work on something. again, i don't think this is over. i think this is going to take time. legislative process is a messy process. i think we have to give it time. however, what i would say is that let's start working, let's start debating on other pieces of legislations like tax reform. we -- >> you can't g...