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Really a lot of this comes down to, again, it's a publicity problem for them. they didn't mention it, had they mentioned it earlier, it probably wouldn't have been as big of a deal. during the obama administration, they often mentioned when president obama talked to president putin sort of on the sidelines in a casual way. just because they knew that we were interested in that. it's always of interest. and so they waited to talk about it. they didn't acknowledge it. actually it came out earlier today, and i was one of the people, as many other reporters at the white house today were asking the...

Lengthy statement before the tweets that basically explained the situation and then called the entire episode absurd, that why is this a big deal at all. >> anita all i was going to say it's a publicity problem nonetheless it's a state craft problem. >> right, i mean they just -- what keeps happening to them it is they didn't have a good day as you mentioned with health care. but what keeps happening is a good day or bad day, you know the end of the day and something comes out and they are sort of unable to deal with dsh deeshl with it hours later they deal with it. they are upset about this. ...

Entire episode absurd. why is this a big deal at all. >> anita, it's a publicity problem unless it's a state craft problem. >> right. i mean, they just -- what keeps happening to them is they didn't have a particularly good day as you mingsed with health care. but what keeps happening to them is a good day or a bad day, you know, it's the end of the day and something comes out. they are sort of unable to deal with, you know, deal with it hours later, they deal with it. they are very upset about this. they're outraged really that -- they're saying this isn't even a second meeting. so there is p...