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Tainted. and so he doesn't want to be known as a tainted president. so he promotes this putin propaganda that clearly is false. >> let me go to mr. sypher on this. what is this about i think kgb people know how to lie. i mean, they know how to lie effectively and convincingly. i watch "the americans." i've been taught. and i've done a little bit of these people over the years in politics when they come to washington to try to talk to us. and i know they know how the lie. why does trump believe their lies? doesn't he know they're state craft, their trade craft? they lie. communists lie. >> very...

For economic growth, energy, the environment. here's what ambassador barbara stevenson is trying to sound the alarm. i would expect a public outcry. what do you think is happening at the state department? >> you had trouble finding words to discuss china, and i am having trouble finding words here. it's appalling. if you are talking about state craft and how things are done internationally, you can't do it without the people. it's an insult. that's the word. it's an insult to those people that dedicated their lives to being part of our diplomatic service and to being those who go and live abro...

That are a little bit hard to analyze, but i think on the whole, this whole state craft of using all the various tools is important. >> there is also a little bit of a mixed photo op or publicity message because all day they were saying, and in the weeks leading up, thaeey were not goi to go to the dmz and look out over north korea, that that was a cliche, but in fact they had planned all along to go with president moon, but they twice tried to take off in the black hawk helicopters and twice were flagged down and couldn-- fogge couldn't do it safely. what did he miss by not going there? >> i'...

Albright, former secretary of state. still a professor of georgetown on top of everything else. madeleine albright, welcome. thank you very much. >> good to be with you. >> it's good to be with you. you've spent a lot of time dealing with north korea. there have been pluses and minuses to that. we know this long history. what about the president's approach now? >> well, i think the interesting part is to try to figure out what the approach is, because as you pointed out, it kind of goes back and forth. but i do think that the statements that he made in his official speech about seeing the adva...

Of pressure to take ownership of north korea. so far there have been stepped in the right direction there. this is a long term serious state craft. we will see if this administration or any other administration can pull it off. >> let me mention this other form of diplomacy the president is working on here. the economic diplomacy. he talked about at the state dinner what he's looking for. >> i have enjoyed every minute of it even though he's a tough negotiator. right now our trade with gentleman pab is not free, it's not resip owe cal. i know it will be. i have to say for the last many decades...