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Sunni shia conflict so this is a problem with the u.s. policy that's still thinking we can put iraq back together again and it's frankly better to look at reality is that this is three different states or protostates. >> what should u.s. and allies do now? >> well i think, you know if we're going to fight, if something is worth shifting from other elements of state craft to fighting we ought to fight to win and that means ultimately closing with the enemy. we just knocked out this guy, the number two guy with sy us that's fine if it's a small network of terrorists like al qaeda in the 1990s. b...

Egyptian criminal court sentenced mohammad morsi and 13 others to 20 years in prison. what a remarkable arc of this narrative. we're looking at a man behind bars who graduated from usc, was a representative of what a lot of people had hopes for across the middle east and the arab spring, of course he took control and actually did more damage to the muslim brotherhood's reputation across that country than any enemies could ever do. certainly the united states. but now 20 years behind bars. is that a move that will promote stability or promote further unrest in that region? >> i don't think it p...

We really want to achieve the president's goals of defeating and destroying isis, won't we have to commit our own ground forces? and if we do that, what's going to change in the future? how are we going to ensure that iraq does not devolve into sectarian strategy. does the state of iraq really make sense? does syria really make sense? is isis a symptom of the need to reorganize these places to admit that perhaps there should be some kind of sunni homeland, some kind of shia homeland, some kind of kurdish homeland? the current political boundaries don't make sense and i don't think the u.s. mil...

People that are intelligent. you think it is for the downtrodden but the statistics tell you either wise if you look at it from an empiricalistic based objective. at the end of the day, we do know we need to use all of the instruments of state craft and enter the battlefield in terms of the ideological issues. we're going to get better but that is insufficient. >> and when we look at arrests like today of the three individuals, brooklyn residents here, how should we think about that. should we be comforted that clearly the authorities were tracking the individuals and arrest them before they g...

Geographically large country, there's a rise of war lordism and the taliban is coming back in areas we've come back from. over time the government and his shared power arrangement with the other competitor will have to show that country they have got a better vector for the people in afghanistan that the taliban do. and that they can run that with less corruption and sort of less feeiascos that happened under karzai. that gives them a chance. thinking the pentagon can deliver on the things is a huge mistake. we'll use other elements of state craft to help him achieve the goals. it won't be wit...