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Bill or something like it passing? or do you think they like the certainty of obamacare what they've come to adapt to service that market. >> they certainly like certainty but on one level they like it because more money is put into stabilize the state exchanges. and also keeping in mind the lobby, the health care lobby is 3 and a half not four times bigger than any other lobbying effort out there. mitch mcconnell met with lobbyists from the health care industry before meeting with the 13 members of senate writing this with him. if you're a hospital out there you've seen a temporary boom maybe...

The house floor saying, your constituents don't know your name but they will when i'm done with you. they were singing goodbye because they feel they have political momentum and so dire in these districts. they might be flat wrong, and certainly might be flat wrong at the end of the day when it goes through the senate and you have a different spectrum of republicans who have to deal with it to get ut out of senate. >> part is a calculation about who the swing voters will be in 2018. they have to figure out what you see in terms of engagement from middle class suburban parents is not the tax cu...

Here is the catch point. who is going to pay for that? who is going to pay for that? the kaiser family foundation has done a study on this and side high risk pools work, they actually work but they are underfunded. i believe that president trump is sending a message and implied this on several occasions, maybe more money would be sent there than before. right now we're spending 64 billion a year to subsidize the state exchanges. what if we used half of that, 30 billion and subsidized high-risk pools in the states that decide they want to go that way? >> bill: would that account for coverage fo...

Surprise. that might explain while outside pence's speeches they're protesting to protect the affordable care act. thank you for being here. so that disconnect where people didn't understand that what they had with connect was, in fact, obamacare has led them to elect a governor who promised to repeal obamacare came in and blew up the state exchanges. what can you give us some anecdote a.m.s on some of your constituents who now realize what they're losing? >> we have, for instance, several community health centers here who are providing care to thousands of more people right now and they will ...

Involved. there is health savings accounts where patients can pay out-of-pocket for more things. where there is tax deductions. he put for the a proposal where you get tax credits and use that to buy insurance with. as well as directly services. >> martha: that's a comprehensive plan very different than what we got in obamacare. so the big question is how do you give the new program and how do you get it started while protecting people and making sure that you don't have those gaps in between? because that's the biggest concern that people have. >> i think you add, rather than take away right ...