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Medicaid. >> what's important on medicaid to remember is that funding by medicaid is going up more than $70 billion through this. but only in washington where a not growing as fast is considered a cut. you can do these things. you can make with the vice president did this as governor. you can have state flexibility and innovation deliver better service to people at less cost to government. >> it is a cut to medicaid. the vice president signed on to run with the president who on the campaign trail promised not to cut medicaid. this bill does that. the president promised not to give insurance fo...

As well as rand paul. how important do you think those two are to his sales pitch? >> well, know senator cruz is wanting to get to yes. and he be been open to negotiations and has been doing so for quite some time. look, he is beholdingen to his constituents and not to washington. the key hold ups with him in the current version of the bill that's out there on the table is he wants to see lower premiums and greater state flexibility with regard to health care. and those are things he's going to stand firm on as well as others who are opposing it. but he wants to get to yes. and he believes wit...

Accomplished are, number one, lowering premiums. if premiums go down, that's a win for everyone. it's a win for conservatives, it's a win for moderates, it's a win for the men and women we represent. but number two, another principle that unifies everyone is state flexibility. letting states have far more flexibility. so for example, with medicaid -- individual state designed creative and innovative new plans to care for the most vulnerable, letting a more moderate governor, like a john kasich in ohio, do what the state of ohio wants and letting a more conservative governor like a greg abbott ...

Medicaid expansion. there will be drastic changes to the medicaid program overall. states will get certain amounts of money, but the funding will be cut back drastically. we have more state flexibility to waive obamacare regulations in a one year block of funding. again, more or less in line with what we have been reporting. the big question, of course, came as we get more details and senate republicans get a chance to look through the bill. whether they feel they got enough of what they asked for to vote yes on the bill or feel like the details are enough hang ups they are not willing to go t...

Both house and senate passed a reconciliation bill. that became the platform for the bill that we had before our committee, and i thought the committee product after all of the work that was put in was a very good product. that's the one that got pulled from the floor because for some it was not conservative enough. they wanted that additional state flexibility for a state to say we don't want to do community rating. >> that's right. >> so that language was added. >> okay. i just want to establish this basic thing because i feel like one of the things that's frustrating about this debate is th...