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Itself was, was what was scary for me. you know, there are many people who have scarier interactions than i have had, but it was a very unexpected turn of events and so i didn't really know how to behave and act in that situation. on tuesday, i got an opportunity to end the three days i was in d.c. for a sixth conference for state innovators with an invite to the white house to attend two briefing sessions on the criminal justice reform and middle class economics, and when i left, i went back to the hotel where the conference was happening to transition into another hotel where i would stay

Situation? did you feel like there was a real threat to your safety? >> i mean, i think in the way that the event transformed itself was, was what was scary for me. you know, there are many people who have scarier interactions than i have had, but it was a very unexpected turn of events and so i didn't really know how to behave and act in that situation. on tuesday, i got an opportunity to end the three days i was in d.c. for a sixth conference for state innovators with an invite to the white house to attend two briefing sessions on the criminal justice reform and middle class economics, and w...