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What martin was saying, the primary problem, to simply state it, is still unvaccinated people transmitting the virus to other unvaccinated people. that's still the primary problem. >> i think that continues to be reinforced. this isn't about a problem with the vaccines, that the vaccines aren't working. that's not what this is. this is still only really happening because of the unvaccinated. when people inevitably ask, why do people need to wear masks again in school this year, this is all because people refused to get vaccinated. >> i really think that's the case. it's heartbreaking, kate. we...

World and the security of the world. there wasn't any strident action taken where we disagreed, disagreed, state it where it was. where he disagreed, he stated. but it was not done in a hyperbolic atmosphere. and now we've established a clear basis on how we intend to deal with russia and the u.s./russia relationship. there's much more work ahead. i'm not suggesting any of this is done. we've gotten a lot of business done on this trip. i also told him that no president of the united states could keep faith with the american people if they did not speak out to defend our democratic values, to s...

And then he went onto neilson. this is somebody who's seasoned in terms of running a major corporation. not only that, i think they look at david calhoun and they say look, he's going to have a long time airline executive who's going to be the chairman and the president of the ceo, calhoun is going to come up a game plan to get the max back on the air and fix boeing's reputation when it comes to airline customers and regulators and etc. >> if he knew the game plan, had he been keeping it a secret over the last year and a half. >> the economic impact of the 737 max, you can't under state it. >>...

For us. he was a popularly elected president. then the president had nerve enough to say we have money. your defense assistance. but we need you to help us out first. it's just incredibly inappropriate. but i believe in the united states it's kind of hard for us to imagine the situation that this president is in. and all of that compromises our national security. but we do know over the last three years, we know who this president answers to. and it's not the american people. it's putin. >> wow. i mean, there's a lot there. the president obviously didn't state it in that conversation as overtl...

That nick knebel kid is in some trouble tonight unfortunately. author and columnist mark steyn joins us to assess all of this. what do you make of what was learned tonight, mark? >> it helps to confirm why cnn is in a state it's in. if you recall, i think this was the year before president trump came down that escalator. cnn went nuts over the malaysia airlines jet leading up to their fantastic theory that the jet had flown into a black hole, which you may recall the respected journalist carlos were advancing at one point. you can say what you like about that and that has a kind of objective s...